Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

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Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Panos » Fri, 22. May 20, 23:22

Is there any way to stop certain factions from docking to our stations?

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Ezarkal » Fri, 22. May 20, 23:56

In the empire option menu, you can set some trading blacklist.
Forbid your stations from trading with the undesired NPC faction, and the problem should be solved.

I would assume NPC fight ships do not dock to stations unless it's to trade, or to get repaired/resupplied at a shipyard (which is also considered a trade). But I never paid real attention to that, so I don't have solid evidence.



The more brutal method is to make the undesired faction your enemy! :twisted:
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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Panos » Sat, 23. May 20, 00:33

Ezarkal wrote:
Fri, 22. May 20, 23:56
In the empire option menu, you can set some trading blacklist.
Forbid your stations from trading with the undesired NPC faction, and the problem should be solved.

I would assume NPC fight ships do not dock to stations unless it's to trade, or to get repaired/resupplied at a shipyard (which is also considered a trade). But I never paid real attention to that, so I don't have solid evidence.



The more brutal method is to make the undesired faction your enemy! :twisted:
Thinking if there is a way to stop SCA from docking on my stations in disguise (as ZYA, TEL etc) and hack the terminals.
Is really annoying.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Ezarkal » Sat, 23. May 20, 01:18

I have no answer to that, and I would like one.

If NPCs can hack us (and vice-versa), it would be nice to have some form of counter-measures.



...otherwise their stations will become the training dummies of my fleets of destroyers and carriers. 8)
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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Y-llian » Sat, 23. May 20, 02:13

Ezarkal wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 01:18
I have no answer to that, and I would like one.

If NPCs can hack us (and vice-versa), it would be nice to have some form of counter-measures.



...otherwise their stations will become the training dummies of my fleets of destroyers and carriers. 8)
Yup. I give my citizens medicines, foods, water, jobs, ample living space and still, some turn to piracy or aid the pirates! It’s a good thing I’m a benevolent overlord and overlook such transgressions...

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by zakaluka » Sat, 23. May 20, 02:59

There's no way through settings and AI behaviors to combat pirates, it actually requires you to go scan them and take em down.

I'm not honestly 100% sure how pirate economy works, so, does taking out their stations do anything? Or do they (FAF & SCA) also have infinite wealth like the main factions? Do they have to build their ships at a wharf/shipyard or do they just spawn ships? I don't know.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Y-llian » Sat, 23. May 20, 03:08

zakaluka wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 02:59
There's no way through settings and AI behaviors to combat pirates, it actually requires you to go scan them and take em down.

I'm not honestly 100% sure how pirate economy works, so, does taking out their stations do anything? Or do they (FAF & SCA) also have infinite wealth like the main factions? Do they have to build their ships at a wharf/shipyard or do they just spawn ships? I don't know.
There’s no spawning, with the exception of the Kha’ak around their hives, as I understand. Pirate factions order their ships from shipyards of other NPC factions - they don’t have their own. Essentially, there’s folk on shipyards that are corrupt enough to help pirates build ships for murder and plunder!

I might be wrong but I think that’s how it works...

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Imperial Good » Sat, 23. May 20, 03:17

Panos wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 00:33
Thinking if there is a way to stop SCA from docking on my stations in disguise (as ZYA, TEL etc) and hack the terminals.
They do not dock with your stations. They hack from space while flying.
Y-llian wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 03:08
There’s no spawning, with the exception of the Kha’ak around their hives, as I understand. Pirate factions order their ships from shipyards of other NPC factions - they don’t have their own. Essentially, there’s folk on shipyards that are corrupt enough to help pirates build ships for murder and plunder!

I might be wrong but I think that’s how it works...
This only applies to FAF as far as I can tell, which count as FRF as far as who is placing the order goes.

SCA is magically spawning in their ships at gates.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by waynetarlton » Sat, 23. May 20, 08:02

Panos wrote:
Fri, 22. May 20, 23:22
Is there any way to stop certain factions from docking to our stations?
There may be a way or at least, ensuring your stations don't trade with a faction via the trade blacklist.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Kintanar » Sat, 23. May 20, 09:09

Iam missing something? My stations have never been hacked, or at least i never new about it? My game is as old as the first day of the release of the game, version 3.1, and long time a go i moved to Nopileos, so my stations are the only ones in the sector...

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by KiwiNZ » Sat, 23. May 20, 09:22

Kintanar wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 09:09
Iam missing something? My stations have never been hacked, or at least i never new about it? My game is as old as the first day of the release of the game, version 3.1, and long time a go i moved to Nopileos, so my stations are the only ones in the sector...
Common occurrence for stations placed in Nopi. Doesn't seem to be quite as much of an issue in sectors claimed by races.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Y-llian » Sat, 23. May 20, 10:22

Imperial Good wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 03:17

SCA is magically spawning in their ships at gates.
Both useful to note and disappointing to hear - thank you. Everyday I learn something new here... I was hoping we’d seen the end of spawning ships (except our space bug friends) now we have a truly simulated universe.

It seems that I owe my citizens an apology. I’ve been threatening them with airlock death if they continue to support piracy. Meanwhile they’ve not - there’s actually a pirate king/god that create them! Urgh, what a PR nightmare...

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by Raptor34 » Sat, 23. May 20, 12:56

Kintanar wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 09:09
Iam missing something? My stations have never been hacked, or at least i never new about it? My game is as old as the first day of the release of the game, version 3.1, and long time a go i moved to Nopileos, so my stations are the only ones in the sector...
There is no notification. But check around sometimes, you'll see a station with cargo in space, and a SCA destroyer using cargo drones to scoop them up. A waste really considering they drop way more than they scoop.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by SamuraiProgrammer » Sat, 23. May 20, 14:10

So, I had this problem in Nopileus' Fortune and solved it.

Destroy the SCA ships. Blow. Them. Up.

For the destroyer that was lurking, it took buying 2 destroyers of my own and using my personal ship to destroy their engines. Then fly far enough away that the destroyers will actually shoot. When the enemy starts moving again, swoop in and destroy the engines again.

Haven't had any more floating cargo since.

I am sure they will eventually acquire more ships, but 'rinse and repeat' should be the ticket.

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Re: Can we stop some faction docking to our stations?

Post by spankahontis » Sat, 23. May 20, 14:26

Panos wrote:
Sat, 23. May 20, 00:33
Ezarkal wrote:
Fri, 22. May 20, 23:56
In the empire option menu, you can set some trading blacklist.
Forbid your stations from trading with the undesired NPC faction, and the problem should be solved.

I would assume NPC fight ships do not dock to stations unless it's to trade, or to get repaired/resupplied at a shipyard (which is also considered a trade). But I never paid real attention to that, so I don't have solid evidence.



The more brutal method is to make the undesired faction your enemy! :twisted:
Thinking if there is a way to stop SCA from docking on my stations in disguise (as ZYA, TEL etc) and hack the terminals.
Is really annoying.
Sadly no, all you can do is get your Rattlesnake, fill it with goodies which will attract pirates and expose their aggressive behaviour to which your Rattlesnake can destroy them easily, if they're anything other than another Rattlesnake?
Just send your Destroyers to Pirate hotspots using the above trick and that'll flush out the hidden pirate destroyers.
The chances of reducing Factories getting hacked? Can't be sure if that'll reduce/stop their consistency without more research?

When in doubt? Just destroy every Pirate Base you can find.. See if that reduces the number of Pirate ships?

As Imperial Good said, they spawn regardless, but reducing their power i'm sure will reduce the number of pirate ships and chances they will bother your ships.
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