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No. This is the correct target. There was a "the defense has been disabled" when I approached for the first time.Alan Phipps wrote:Wait, is there more than one Taranis in the zone? If so you could be hitting the wrong one in terms of eventual boarding. I found it best to wait until later when the obvious target ship is hacked and then Yisha tells you what needs to be destroyed.
You know the more I hear, the more I suspect that this mission may have changed since I did it in 3.51.
Right, I did not realize the OP was talking about the campaign. That Taranis should be much easier to board than a regular one. But then, as often in the campaign, allies might be there to help, or not - for some reason...Alan Phipps wrote:IIRC, the pre-hacked Taranis target is neutral to the friendly forces supporting you, so they won't attack it.
You don't need to destroy every surface element on the Taranis either as they have been hacked and so play no part in the defence against boarding, nor do they add (much) to the target's boarding defence score. You can take the target fairly intact (apart from the engines, jumpdrive and hull?) with quite a weak squad of green marines as long as you do what boarding assists Yisha demands.
Caveat: The above is all from a few versions ago - probably 3.51.
Well, finally I managed to do it. Dragging the drones away from the Taranis, then racing in to find a safe place in the bowels of the ship to destroy the engines. I got 50 recruit marines and one 5-star officer and do I didn't have to destroy any more targets. No casualties. and then suddenly all enemies disappeared and several HoA ships appeared.RainerPrem wrote:No. This is the correct target. There was a "the defense has been disabled" when I approached for the first time.Alan Phipps wrote:Wait, is there more than one Taranis in the zone? If so you could be hitting the wrong one in terms of eventual boarding. I found it best to wait until later when the obvious target ship is hacked and then Yisha tells you what needs to be destroyed.
You know the more I hear, the more I suspect that this mission may have changed since I did it in 3.51.
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Hi,Alan Phipps wrote:It cannot carry or trade 'wares' other than jumpfuel, drones and ammo in vanilla, if that is what you mean. Even then, it treats those rather differently to tradewares. Any changes to that situation would have to be through modding.
Hi,Alan Phipps wrote: Yes you can use the Taranis to give the Skunk a lift. Indeed that should have happened in that plot as you were invited to dock with it before the Taranis jumped away after the battle.
As of 4.10, there is a slight change: capital ships with ammo now show it at the bottom of their info view. With the Taranis, you will notice it lists AstroBees, with a capacity of 40. You can replenish that at shipyards, using the Modify Ship dialog with the NPC (which previously didn't seem to accomplish much, as far as I could tell - well, the ammo option, at any rate.) 40 Astrobees for the Taranis will set you back around a half million, and I am happy to say that, so far, I've seen the Taranis only fire those in really busy furballs, which is a good thing, as I've found no way to order the DO to use or not use them - so you really don't want it to squander them at scattered or isolated fighters that would be a walkover for the Taranis or the Skank.RainerPrem wrote:Am I correct that drones and ammo are bought by the defense officer?
RainerPrem wrote:Will I get the Rahanas back at any point in the campaign or do I need to buy/board another one?
I think your memory is fine.Alan Phipps wrote:So maybe the only real difference between your experience and what (I think) I recall happening for me is that my HoA support forces turned up to the battle before the boarding attempt. Odd.
Hi,Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:I think your memory is fine.Alan Phipps wrote:So maybe the only real difference between your experience and what (I think) I recall happening for me is that my HoA support forces turned up to the battle before the boarding attempt. Odd.
The mission begins with the Skunk being asked to dock on a HoA CV, which jumps into the battle before the player undocks to attack the Skunk. A bunch of HoA capital ships should arrive with the CV.
If the HoA CV was the only friendly capital on the field at the start of the fight, it sounds like a misunderstanding, bug and/or mod issue.
The Taranis is a very capable combat ship, a light/medium destroyer. It has good speed vs firepower ratio, and packs a few plasma "beam" turrets that are versatile and effective against all target types, and is quite tough to boot. I know some people advocate selling it in order to finance economic bootstrapping, and this is a totally valid option. I personally prefer to keep it - as a "trophy" of sorts (though a very easily obtained one, heheh), and for its combat functionality, especially since I have other mechanisms for early finance, if desired. Basically, it's up to you. If you do take it to DeVries with you, it can be invaluable for helping to deal with those large Reiver raiding parties (if you are playing on Very Hard difficulty, those can be a significant PitA!)RainerPrem wrote: One question concerning the Taranis: Is it better to sell it and buy a "real" freighter instead or does this ship have any advantages apart from being an oversized taxi?
Hi,RAVEN.myst wrote:The Taranis is a very capable combat ship, a light/medium destroyer.RainerPrem wrote: One question concerning the Taranis: Is it better to sell it and buy a "real" freighter instead or does this ship have any advantages apart from being an oversized taxi?
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Basically, it's up to you. If you do take it to DeVries with you, it can be invaluable for helping to deal with those large Reiver raiding parties (if you are playing on Very Hard difficulty, those can be a significant PitA!)
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When you capture that ship, it comes fully armed. If any of those armaments were destroyed during the fight/boarding op, the assigned engineer will eventually repair them all. (To answer your question in a more general sense: when buying a ship at a shipyard, you can order the weapons then and there, and there's really little reason not to, as unfortunately unlike in previous Xs, you can't pick and choose the weapons - each ship has a standard configuration, so your options boil down to "have this gun or don't have it" - obviously, the answer is basically always "have it". If, for whatever reason, a ship you have doesn't have a full complement of surface elements, then you can use the Modify Ship => Upgrade option at the ship dealer to rectify the situation.)RainerPrem wrote:So if the Taranis is a fighter and not a freighter, how can I outfit it with weapons? Meeting a ship outfitter on one of the shipyards?
And for the commands: Should I have it follow me wherever I go in case I meet some Reivers?
I then undock if/when I need to visit a station, or get my own hands dirty with something. IMPORTANT: Be careful with your military ships when in Albion, which is now semi-hostile territory to you. Because PMC will now shoot your military ships on sight, it's not a good idea to travel around in/with such (well, other than your Skunk itself) - when moving around Albion, if you want to ride in style, use a capital freighter, such as your Rahanas, for example (later on, a Lepton is a nice alternative - good cargo types, very quick and nimble, and easier to dock with than a Rahanas.)Thank you very much. I see I'll still have to learn a lot about that game...RAVEN.myst wrote:When you capture that ship, it comes fully armed. If any of those armaments were destroyed during the fight/boarding op, the assigned engineer will eventually repair them all. (To answer your question in a more general sense: when buying a ship at a shipyard, you can order the weapons then and there, and there's really little reason not to, as unfortunately unlike in previous Xs, you can't pick and choose the weapons - each ship has a standard configuration, so your options boil down to "have this gun or don't have it" - obviously, the answer is basically always "have it". If, for whatever reason, a ship you have doesn't have a full complement of surface elements, then you can use the Modify Ship => Upgrade option at the ship dealer to rectify the situation.)RainerPrem wrote:So if the Taranis is a fighter and not a freighter, how can I outfit it with weapons? Meeting a ship outfitter on one of the shipyards?
And for the commands: Should I have it follow me wherever I go in case I meet some Reivers?
If you decide to take the Taranis with you to Albion, then you may want to add it to your squad. It will then by default follow you around. My own preference, when I have any nimble capital ships with me, is to actually stay docked on my favourite and order the captain to go wherever I need to, thus getting chauffeured around.