Miniding wrote:But if you look closer to a PC running even X3TC, you'll understand there would be a dumbing down... Or at least a tunning down as X series are to eat RAM and GPU
Like i said in one of my other comments, i was still playing TC and AP on my nearly 13 year old Pentium 4 'til late last year, with its' 1 gig of Ram (and the one thing i didn't mention in the previous comment, a Nvidia 6200 "Turbocache"), aside from long loading times between sectors, the game still ran perfectly.
Reunion ran even between with zero loading times, but of course that game only needed half a gig of ram to run and recommended my old PC's 1 gig.
(I've no doubt a PS4 would run at the very least Reunion to AP, in it's sleep, surely even Rebirth because it well exceeds the game's minimum ram and matches its' recommended amount and EVEN if X4 doubled Rebirths' minimum ram requirement, which i highly doubt Egosoft will do with it as like i said even many PC players don't have 8 gig ram PCs.
While sure if people are buying expensive gaming PC these days, many will aim to buy systems with 8+ gigs of ram, but there are many people on a budget who still buy PCs with 4 gigs or less of ram*.
Long story short, power wise (and for any other reason), there'd be no need to downgrade or "dumb down" the series gameplay.
I want it EXACTLY the way it currently is (at least in all the entries up to and including AP (i've only run Rebirth a few minutes to see that it plays perfectly on my system, i haven't put any time into it to judge it for myself, i just know it disappointed a lot if other X fans.
Console gamers don't need simpler games either and are completely capable of playing and understanding the exact same games PC players play.
In 2005 i came to PC games directly from my PS2 and i could play and understand them instantly.
(While i CAN easily play PC games, it's the secondary problems you get with them that have me wishing i was playing them on a console.
First wondering if you can run particular games on your system, then if they'll run well, then changing game settings to find a nice balance between the game looking the best it can and running smoothly, then generally having to programme your own controller and other control options, if they even have controller support at all or good controller support at that, background programmes like anti virus scans or your system downloading an update and wanting to restart, not including them missing certain things we get on consoles like trophy support, easier placement of consoles in bedrooms etc.
Yes i know Laptops and Alienware Alpha are small, but they have limitations desktops PCs don't, so IF i have to have a PC to play certain games i still must have a desktop PC, but if all the games i want to play were available on a Playstation, which 95% of them are, i wouldn't even think of a PC as a gaming system...
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On the flip side, as i've said, we've gotten direct PC ports of games like the aforementioned Elite Dangerous and in particular, its' easy to use button modifier control scheme is proff you don't need a keyboard to play complex space games like X with a controller.
(As i also said, i've played all the X games i've played with a controller on my PC, only using the keyboard for secondary functions, which i could have easily mapped to the controller, i just didn't bother to.
Elite's PS4 control scheme for example has one main function of each face button and typically three, if not more additional functions mapped to each button with modifiers, but you could easily map way more modifier functions, for example modifying a single face button with only the direction and shoulder buttons raises its' functions to nine, without even adding modifiers with the other face buttons or L3 and R3 or with two additional buttons, three additional buttons... though any more though four additional buttons would get extremely confusing...
If anyone remembers how factorial numbers work, there are literally thousands of button combinations possible with only the DS4's 12 standard buttons, not included those possible when you add L3, R3, Start, Share and the touch pad, though the ones after the main 12 would be difficult to press in combinations and sure while you literally wouldn't be able remember all the factorial combinations of 12 and likely run out of system memory programming them all and surely some combinations would (but maybe not
) cancel each other out by overlapping when pressing actually buttons, but the possible combinations of 12 numbers or indeed 12 objects is... 479,001,600 and while sure a keyboards' possible combinations is even higher, with the factorial of even only 20 buttons is 2,432,902,008,176,640,000, the primary point is, you don't need a keyboard to play a game like this
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorial
(You could map at least nine functions to each of the face buttons.
One function for a tap, but upon holding it pick eight more functions for it by then pressing any of the four direction buttons or shoulder buttons, without even adding to that the additional modifiers of holding the same button, then pressing one of the other face buttons or combinations of buttons, such as the button with two other buttons, three other buttons. four other buttons and so on...
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(*Many shop bought €300-500 desktop and laptop computers only come with 4 gigs of ram, the first starting model of the Alienware Alpha only came with 2 gigs of ram, while the second gen starting model still only came with 4 gigs of ram and cost around €650. While you can't currently buy the 4 gigs model from Dell, at least here in Ireland, and the first model of the Alpha currently which does indeed comes with 8 gigs of ram,... but it costs nearly €900 without a disc drive, which many people will still want to play older games which would push a starting Alpha with a disc drive up to nearly €950.
While the Alpha is of course a small and relatively powerful, because last time i heard you can't change its' graphics card once it's built, it can only use an external disc drive and worries some people have over its' cooling efficiency since it has such a small box, since Dell replaced its' pretty good value X51 line and aside from its' XPS line that offers some seemingly pretty random stock builds, some great, some terrible, but its' main gaming PC line now, the Aurora, is overpriced and not that impressive (without spending a fortune).
Its' starting build, without a disc drive and a pretty poor AMD RX 560 cost €1020, giving it a disc drive, which means changing the model to more expensive case and a still only average Nvidia 1050Ti makes the system cost €1230.
Adding a disc drive costs €50 extra and the different case needed another €50 extra.
The X51 models for about €800 were typically as good as the now €1200+ Aurora builds and 'til about three years ago came with disc drives as standard, but even in about the last two to three years 'til about a year ago when the X51 was discontinued and a disc drive was then an optional extra, adding it only cost €30 extra and didn't mean changing the case.
Most people are only going to buy €300-500 models, particularly if they're buying a family PC or only looking for PC as a secondary gaming device to a PS4 or Xbox 1, as i recently was.
While i was on a pretty small budget and i didn't like the often up to €600 PCs in shops like PC World, in the end i got my currently PC pretty cheap at €400 on sale from Dell, which while it indeed came with 8 gigs of ram and an i3 6100, it only came with an integrated HD 530 graphics but even with that its' able to run Rebirth at approximately medium settings and assuming X4's minimum settings don't change, it'll still run it too.
(It was down from €450, while their new similar system, with only a slightly better cpu and integrated card, an i3 7100 with a HD 630 is currently €500, indeed it's a direct iteration of my current PC...
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If my PC will run Rebirth, my PS4 would surely run at least all the X games so far and hopefully still X4...
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