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Posted: Wed, 3. Dec 14, 14:14
by spankahontis
The Seminar's seem to be somewhat random.
Maybe they give you seminars based on their highest skills?
Cause I've had Managers give me Leadership, Navigation, Management.
But not always all 3, sometimes just 1.

Posted: Thu, 4. Dec 14, 02:05
by spankahontis
ShoC wrote:a piece of the Kha'ak relice is located in
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sixth Scripture just go amongst the *station* and longrange scan
where did you find your piece tamina? and what you mean about the police scanner?

EDIT : found another piece in
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Venturous profit - inside one of the destoryed water sotrage sections
Also...
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Piece of the Ancient Device at 1 of the Xenon Stations in Cryptic Heart.. Need to Long Range Scan, (it's pretty tucked away)
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Kha'ak Artefact at AG Core Dig in Last Stand, again, pretty tucked away in the O section of Rock.
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Piece of the Ancient Device Inside the cave of the Badlands Mining Colony in Dormant Bear. Fly into it's pit in the centre, hard to find as it's dark (follow the red lights) down.
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Kha'ak Artefact at Persistent Darkening, next to Reiver Station, generally the one being attacked by a Plutarch Light Sul, Long Range Scan.
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Kha'ak Artefact at the Lonely Giant in Exhaustless Mines.. Inbetween the 2 main rocks

Posted: Thu, 4. Dec 14, 22:50
by ty_cho
Anyone else run into the booby trapped locked boxes yet? one false move, and boom, you loose about half hull points!

Posted: Thu, 4. Dec 14, 22:58
by Ebron
Up until now I ended up finding normal lockboxes, damaged lockboxes(that strangely enough doesn't drop anything even if they are supposed to contain uncommon loot) and booby trapped ones.

For the last ones, every time I shoot one lock, it blows up and take half of my hull with him. Still haven't managed to understand how to avoid it

Posted: Thu, 4. Dec 14, 23:05
by ty_cho
Ebron wrote:Up until now I ended up finding normal lockboxes, damaged lockboxes(that strangely enough doesn't drop anything even if they are supposed to contain uncommon loot) and booby trapped ones.

For the last ones, every time I shoot one lock, it blows up and take half of my hull with him. Still haven't managed to understand how to avoid it
It's no different than the other lock boxes, except that if you even hit the box's hull even once, it explodes, so you have to make sure you only hit the locks.

Posted: Thu, 4. Dec 14, 23:27
by wwdragon
ty_cho wrote:Anyone else run into the booby trapped locked boxes yet? one false move, and boom, you loose about half hull points!
Yes I have and they are kind of annoying. :(

Posted: Fri, 5. Dec 14, 04:05
by nazcarspider
They do look rather cool though :D

Posted: Fri, 5. Dec 14, 17:43
by wwdragon
nazcarspider wrote:They do look rather cool though :D
All right, that's true. :)

Posted: Sat, 6. Dec 14, 20:44
by ShoC
anyone found the locations of the remaining khaak litems?

and anyone for the ancient relic?

Posted: Sat, 6. Dec 14, 23:39
by Spami
Got now all Khaak relicts, Ancient artifacts and rare engine parts.

Khaak and Ancient stuff was mostly without intention as I did not know they are special too but a normal item.
I guess I found them on my search for the rare engine.

I did now crafted the proper things out of them.


It seems you get random stuff for those rare items. The mission however tells you what you get before accepting them, so no risk here.
I got
- For a space fly egg collection:
A new weapon!
At least I am supposed to but I guess they didn't implemented the new weapons yet, so nothing here.
- For the Khaak and ancient relicts:
A Mk5 shield (I could choose from 3 shields)
- For the rare engine:
Well an engine. Again I could choose from 3 different mk5 engines.

I reloaded and repeated exchanging those wares with different people, it seems you always get to choose from the same 3 Mk5 weapons, shields, engines.

However I do not know if you get for the relicts always shields and for the space fly eggs always weapons. I found 20 of those missions and all rewarded the same for the same object. Might be just a coincidence.

*Edit: The rare engine (I took the fastest one with 360m/s) rocks when boosting!!! 8)

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 02:28
by wwdragon
Spami wrote:Got now all Khaak relicts, Ancient artifacts and rare engine parts.
Wow, you been workin that game! 8)
Spami wrote:- For a space fly egg collection:
A new weapon!
At least I am supposed to but I guess they didn't implemented the new weapons yet, so nothing here.
Unless there's a third new weapon, it's just the same two you can buy at Teladi Mechanics... the mining beam of death and blue pew pew.

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 09:46
by ShoC
Spami wrote:Got now all Khaak relicts, Ancient artifacts and rare engine parts.

Khaak and Ancient stuff was mostly without intention as I did not know they are special too but a normal item.
I guess I found them on my search for the rare engine.

I did now crafted the proper things out of them.


It seems you get random stuff for those rare items. The mission however tells you what you get before accepting them, so no risk here.
I got
- For a space fly egg collection:
A new weapon!
At least I am supposed to but I guess they didn't implemented the new weapons yet, so nothing here.
- For the Khaak and ancient relicts:
A Mk5 shield (I could choose from 3 shields)
- For the rare engine:
Well an engine. Again I could choose from 3 different mk5 engines.

I reloaded and repeated exchanging those wares with different people, it seems you always get to choose from the same 3 Mk5 weapons, shields, engines.

However I do not know if you get for the relicts always shields and for the space fly eggs always weapons. I found 20 of those missions and all rewarded the same for the same object. Might be just a coincidence.

*Edit: The rare engine (I took the fastest one with 360m/s) rocks when boosting!!! 8)


Where did you find these missions? As of yet I have not seen them....

Also if you were to some decide you was a different shield and purchased a mk4 dashing for example, how would you get your special mk5 back?

Can you recall were all the rare artifacts in standard game? As currently don't have teladi outpost.

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 14:22
by Spami
ShoC wrote: Where did you find these missions? As of yet I have not seen them....

Also if you were to some decide you was a different shield and purchased a mk4 dashing for example, how would you get your special mk5 back?

Can you recall were all the rare artifacts in standard game? As currently don't have teladi outpost.
I think all of them are located around those unique special stations if I remember correctly - no TTO needed.
Stations like Lonely Giant, Split Lost Colony, Badlands Colony, ... those stations.
The guys above have already listed some of those unique places.

You get the rare engineparts from shipwrecks, I think(!) there is a percentual chance for a specific shiptype to drop one of those parts.

If you sell for some unknown reason one of the mk5 parts you can't get them back.
However some of those rare things are recollectable, if you get shields only from relics (as I said I am not 100% sure about that) then shields are the only ship upgrade you can get twice.
[It just came to my mind if it is intended to get only one mk5 shield for each the Khaak and Ancient relic, and not both immediatly.]

Right now there is a bug, you can't normally get the missions with a pre-Beta7 savegame. They appear very very often otherwise (propably for testing purposes).
I ported mine manually to Beta 7 (which was a hell lot of work, took me the whole day), some indices are missing however I think this is patchable. We will see.

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 15:45
by spankahontis
Spami wrote:
ShoC wrote: Where did you find these missions? As of yet I have not seen them....

Also if you were to some decide you was a different shield and purchased a mk4 dashing for example, how would you get your special mk5 back?

Can you recall were all the rare artifacts in standard game? As currently don't have teladi outpost.
I think all of them are located around those unique special stations if I remember correctly - no TTO needed.
Stations like Lonely Giant, Split Lost Colony, Badlands Colony, ... those stations.
The guys above have already listed some of those unique places.

You get the rare engineparts from shipwrecks, I think(!) there is a percentual chance for a specific shiptype to drop one of those parts.

If you sell for some unknown reason one of the mk5 parts you can't get them back.
However some of those rare things are recollectable, if you get shields only from relics (as I said I am not 100% sure about that) then shields are the only ship upgrade you can get twice.
[It just came to my mind if it is intended to get only one mk5 shield for each the Khaak and Ancient relic, and not both immediatly.]

Right now there is a bug, you can't normally get the missions with a pre-Beta7 savegame. They appear very very often otherwise (propably for testing purposes).
I ported mine manually to Beta 7 (which was a hell lot of work, took me the whole day), some indices are missing however I think this is patchable. We will see.

I still have 2 Ancient Relics, 1 Kha'ak, 2 Rare Engine Parts.
Spacefly Eggs? That one's new to me.
I knew there was 'Authentic Spacefly's' you can get from lock boxes I just flogged them.

I've also noticed that there are special Albion & Omicron (VIP) Visa's and Temporary Security Cards, Passwords etc. When you leave the station they become invalid and are deleted from your inventory, so they have to be used on that station, noticed certain panels even with a fully assembled Decryption Module you can't hack them, so I guess that this is what these temporary keys & Passwords do? Never really tried them.

As for the other Missing Relics, spoiler any i've missed plz :D


As for the Engine Parts, I think each Faction has ships unique to it and each ship you get a percentage chance of getting a particular part of the rare engine.
Xenon fighters drop certain parts you wont get from other ships.
Reivers, Terrans etc.

Attacking the same fighters will only get you some of the parts, so venture out.
Also Lockboxes in different areas of space.

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 16:22
by Spami
@Sparky
Yeah Spacefly Egg Collection, below I have posted all crafting recipes I have found, including Spacefly Eggs.

All mk5 encyclopedia entries (except weapons)
(I would like to post those images directly but I guess they are to big for the forum rules :|)

>> Shields (Needed: Kha'ak Relict Collection OR Ancients Relic Collection)
Steady Shield Mk5
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Dashing Shield Mk5
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Behemoth Shield Mk5
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>> Engines (Needed: Rare Engine)
Supercharged Engine Mk5
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Sidewinder Engine Mk5
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Equalized Engine Mk5
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>> Weapons (Needed: Spacefly Egg Collection)
[Nothing here yet]



All crafting recipes I have found so far (9 in total)

[Red Water (Gift), Security Decription System, Spacefly Egg Collection]
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[Rare Engine]
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[Kha'ak Relic Collection, Metal Alloys, Paranid Jewellery (Gift)]
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[Ancients Relic Collection, Haze (Gift)]
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Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 16:50
by ShoC
That's brilliant thanks for your efforts.. I think he space flies one is found in random containers...

Edit: shame the descriptions don't include recharge speed for shields, and strafe speed for engines..

Next we just need all locations listed, I did post some back earlier as did another user.. Were missing one for the khaak relic.

Wasn't there a special weapon from collecting parts also?

Posted: Sun, 7. Dec 14, 23:07
by spankahontis
ShoC wrote:That's brilliant thanks for your efforts.. I think he space flies one is found in random containers...

Edit: shame the descriptions don't include recharge speed for shields, and strafe speed for engines..

Next we just need all locations listed, I did post some back earlier as did another user.. Were missing one for the khaak relic.

Wasn't there a special weapon from collecting parts also?


Yeah, i'm missing 1 Kha'ak Artefact and 2 Ancient artefacts.

Haven't found them yet so any other of the last 3 spoilers add them to list if you've found them.
I want those Supercharged MK5 Engines now! :D


Just found the 5th and Final Kha'ak Artefact going to see what it can do. :D

Posted: Tue, 9. Dec 14, 01:01
by Domattee
spankahontis wrote:
ShoC wrote:That's brilliant thanks for your efforts.. I think he space flies one is found in random containers...

Edit: shame the descriptions don't include recharge speed for shields, and strafe speed for engines..

Next we just need all locations listed, I did post some back earlier as did another user.. Were missing one for the khaak relic.

Wasn't there a special weapon from collecting parts also?


Yeah, i'm missing 1 Kha'ak Artefact and 2 Ancient artefacts.

Haven't found them yet so any other of the last 3 spoilers add them to list if you've found them.
I want those Supercharged MK5 Engines now! :D


Just found the 5th and Final Kha'ak Artefact going to see what it can do. :D
Where did you find it?

Posted: Tue, 9. Dec 14, 18:07
by spankahontis
Ancient Relics Collection (Work in Progress)
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Piece of the Ancient Device at 1 of the Xenon Stations in Cryptic Heart.. Need to Long Range Scan, (it's pretty tucked away)
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Piece of the Ancient Device Inside the cave of the Badlands Mining Colony in Dormant Bear. Fly into it's pit in the centre, hard to find as it's dark (follow the red lights) down.

Kha'ak Relics Collection Complete
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Venturous profit - inside one of the destroyed water storage Spheroids
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A piece of the Kha'ak relic is located in Sixth Scripture just go amongst the *station* and long range scan.
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Kha'ak Artefact at AG Core Dig in Last Stand, again, pretty tucked away in the O section of Rock.
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Kha'ak Artefact at Persistent Darkening, next to Reiver Station, generally the one being attacked by a Plutarch Light Sul, Long Range Scan.
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Kha'ak Artefact at the Lonely Giant in Exhaustless Mines.. Inbetween the 2 main rocks
So far crafted it, but no Mechanic has offered me anything new, so don't know what to do with it?

Posted: Tue, 9. Dec 14, 19:05
by wwdragon
Dev said earlier that you have to look for mission icon with Info icon.